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mrderekevan
April 13th, 2008, 02:51 PM
I have been a singer, recording artist, and mobile DJ for several years, and have entertained at many different types of events. I am also a former radio DJ, and my radio program was a top rated show. Whenever I entertain at a party or event, I almost always get a very positive response from the people who hired me and from all their guests.

Well, I recently entertained at a birthday party in which 2 other professional DJ's attended the party. They told me that I'm obviously an amateur DJ who doesn't know anything about how to mix music. I argued that mixing music is not that difficult and that I do it on a regular basis. (Using the mixing control lever on a CD mixer is very easy, and it didn't take me long to learn how to use it). They said that I may do it regularly, but it doesn't mean that I'm doing it correctly. They also started talking about matching "beats per minute" and then I was totally lost and had no idea what they were talking about.

My question is, what is that "beats per minute" thing all about? Is that something that you DJ's out there know about, or were the 2 guys just giving me a line of crap? All I know is, I've been in the entertainment business for many years, and I've even had my own radio program, and I never heard comments like that before!

ceesil
April 13th, 2008, 03:59 PM
i just wanna say with no disrespect it you are a prifessional dj and don't know what bpm's are that is a problem...

i will expalin

the beats per minute in a song vary...it is when you count for 1 minute the beats in a song.. take for example i'll house you by the jungle brothers when i count the beats i come up with 124 bpm, this make it easier to mix other 124 bpm records together and having other records sound too fast or too slow in pitch...any other questions feel free to ask..

taezee
April 13th, 2008, 06:03 PM
not disrespectfully but how are you a DJ "for several years" and this is the first time hearing beats per minute??? its like saying ive been driving for a few years now and yesterday some guys tell me theres something in my car called a steering wheel which controls the direction of the vehicle

mrderekevan
April 13th, 2008, 09:06 PM
I appreciate you guys telling me about the whole BPM thing. To be honest, I primarily work as a DJ who specializes in pop and rock'n'roll oldies from the 50's, 60's, & 70's. In that genre, there is very little "mixing" involved. We just play a record, wait until it starts to fade out, say a few words, and then just start another song. Sometimes we do mix from one song straight into another, but BPM's are totally irrelevant. As one song fades out, we just mix right into the beginning of the next song. That's how all the oldies DJ's do it. That's even how they do it on CBS-FM 101.1.

However, I've been doing more events in which I'm required to play dance music from the 80's through today. I have significant knowledge of that music, and I have tons of songs in my collection, but I mix the songs together the same way I mix the oldies. I don't know any other way of mixing which is probably why some of the contemporary DJ's say I'm just an amateur. Anyone care to direct to a source where I can learn more about the techniques of contemporary DJ's??

By the way, just to prove that I am an experienced professional in the entertainment business, and not just someone pretending to be a DJ, you could visit my official online promo kit at the following address: www.gigmasters.com/music/derekevan

oldskoolguy
April 14th, 2008, 03:25 PM
I appreciate you guys telling me about the whole BPM thing. To be honest, I primarily work as a DJ who specializes in pop and rock'n'roll oldies from the 50's, 60's, & 70's. In that genre, there is very little "mixing" involved. We just play a record, wait until it starts to fade out, say a few words, and then just start another song. Sometimes we do mix from one song straight into another, but BPM's are totally irrelevant. As one song fades out, we just mix right into the beginning of the next song. That's how all the oldies DJ's do it. That's even how they do it on CBS-FM 101.1.
However, I've been doing more events in which I'm required to play dance music from the 80's through today. I have significant knowledge of that music, and I have tons of songs in my collection, but I mix the songs together the same way I mix the oldies. I don't know any other way of mixing which is probably why some of the contemporary DJ's say I'm just an amateur. Anyone care to direct to a source where I can learn more about the techniques of contemporary DJ's??
By the way, just to prove that I am an experienced professional in the entertainment business, and not just someone pretending to be a DJ, you could visit my official online promo kit at the following address: www.gigmasters.com/music/derekevan

OMG! This has got to be an April Fools Joke. You can't be serious! Please, please please tell me you're pulling our leg! In my entire life, I've never never never ever heard anyone claiming to be a "experienced professional in the entertainment business" ask such a ridiculous question. If you are serious, you need to reconsider your self proclaimed "experienced professional" claim. I know little kids that know BPM. I know 70+ year olds that aren't even in the industry that know that. C'mon man, stop frontin! Two turntables, a mic, a few weddings, and a page on gigmasters does not = "experienced professional in the entertainment business". Trade in your cheap tux, equipment, and try plan "b". i.e. pick up a trade, like woodworking or bass fishing like the other losers at Budd Lake... OSG

BloomfieldAveCruiser
April 14th, 2008, 06:32 PM
I have been a singer, recording artist, and mobile DJ for several years, and have entertained at many different types of events. I am also a former radio DJ, and my radio program was a top rated show. Whenever I entertain at a party or event, I almost always get a very positive response from the people who hired me and from all their guests.
Well, I recently entertained at a birthday party in which 2 other professional DJ's attended the party. They told me that I'm obviously an amateur DJ who doesn't know anything about how to mix music. I argued that mixing music is not that difficult and that I do it on a regular basis. (Using the mixing control lever on a CD mixer is very easy, and it didn't take me long to learn how to use it). They said that I may do it regularly, but it doesn't mean that I'm doing it correctly. They also started talking about matching "beats per minute" and then I was totally lost and had no idea what they were talking about.
My question is, what is that "beats per minute" thing all about? Is that something that you DJ's out there know about, or were the 2 guys just giving me a line of crap? All I know is, I've been in the entertainment business for many years, and I've even had my own radio program, and I never heard comments like that before!

Bro , really .... Those guys were spot on !!!!

No personal disrespect to you but you are not a DJ .....
If you can't take your finger and pitch out a 12" inch record or a CD and beat them up etc. , then you are not a DJ.

All of this new technology is KILLING what DJ's truely are and ruining the skill and talent that they used to be known for.
Beatlock , continuous loop etc etc .... FAKE ASS DJ's ....
From the sounds of it , you aren't even using that if those other DJ's commented to you.

Are you familiar with pitch ?? You know , the lever on the right side of a turn table or CD table ...
Point is when you MIX , you beat up two songs , either mix in the other song into the first songs break beat or towards the end. The mix must sound as if its almost the same song and one can not hear clashing beats etc.
I'm not going to get anymore into it because if you can't beat up two songs on your own or don't know what BPM's are then I don't want to add anymore info to this.

DJ'ing is not just knowing what to play. I mix on turn tables. I have been since the 80's. I use 3 1200's .... I keep it real.
These days people use the Pioneer small CD tables , the larger Newmarks which look like a turn table but you pop the CD inside. You can grab the fake record on top with your hand and it will react like a 12" record.
Even though I'm old school , I respect those that still beat up their mixes with the CD equipment. Nothing like keeping something onbeat with your finger ... LOL
I have no respect for DJ's that only cut in and out of tracks , can't beat anything up on their own , those that clash beats.

Really though , you don't have much to worry about. I know guys who DJ in clubs and can't even get two of the same song on beat if they had to.
It's sad that DJ'ing has become what it is. Long gone are the days where you actually NEEDED skill , hand / ear coordination etc etc to be a DJ.

mrderekevan
April 14th, 2008, 08:20 PM
Well guys, thanks for the input and your honest feedback. I did understand some of what you were saying, and I will keep it in mind. Some of what you said confused me even more! I mean, I just had no clue what you were talking about at some points.

I'm not going to worry too much about it though. I may not be a "real DJ" based on the standards of DJ's in the dance music community, but my bookings have actually tripled in the last couple of years, and I'm making alot of extra money working in the entertainment business. I even did a job this summer in which 2 people told me I was the best DJ they've ever heard at a party! That really meant alot to me. If I can continue doing what I'm doing, and keep getting paid good money for it, why should I let the complaints of a few DJ's at a party get me upset. People can call me an "amateur", or a "fake DJ", but I take my work very seriously and I am having alot of success with it. I also started my own entertainment business, and I am slowly expanding into new areas. Of course, I am also going to be promoting concerts as I have done in the past.

brielle87
April 15th, 2008, 12:16 AM
... but I take my work very seriously and I am having a lot of success with it.

Well if you proclaim this, then you really need to understand what the whole 'process' is really about. Your business is doing well because you must have a great personality, and can rally the crowd/party goers, but it is also important to know the whole art of DJ'ing.
When you listen to a song, any song, there will be a driving beat...become familiar with it, and then start counting off to that beat, then take a stop watch and time 60 sec. When you start the stop watch, immediately start counting to the beat of the music, after 60 seconds is up, you should have your bpm's. It cannot be more simply put than that.
The trick with mixing music, on vinyl, is to have two songs who have bpm's that are close. As one song goes into an instrumental part/a break, you want to have your second song ready to start spinning (or already mixed in and you can just blend over); the trick with the pitch control is to slowdown, or speed up a song to get it in sync with the first so the transition will be seamless.
For all the DJ's here, forgive me for oversimplifying it, I am just trying to give this guy a basic how-to. I know there is so much more I should have added, but it could have led to confusion.
I really hope you will take the time to learn all of this mrderekevan, it is like someone who never learnt how to properly swim, going to a dive meet. You need to know the basics, as with all things. Good luck.

BloomfieldAveCruiser
April 15th, 2008, 11:29 AM
Well if you proclaim this, then you really need to understand what the whole 'process' is really about. Your business is doing well because you must have a great personality, and can rally the crowd/party goers, but it is also important to know the whole art of DJ'ing.
When you listen to a song, any song, there will be a driving beat...become familiar with it, and then start counting off to that beat, then take a stop watch and time 60 sec. When you start the stop watch, immediately start counting to the beat of the music, after 60 seconds is up, you should have your bpm's. It cannot be more simply put than that.
The trick with mixing music, on vinyl, is to have two songs who have bpm's that are close. As one song goes into an instrumental part/a break, you want to have your second song ready to start spinning (or already mixed in and you can just blend over); the trick with the pitch control is to slowdown, or speed up a song to get it in sync with the first so the transition will be seamless.
For all the DJ's here, forgive me for oversimplifying it, I am just trying to give this guy a basic how-to. I know there is so much more I should have added, but it could have led to confusion.
I really hope you will take the time to learn all of this mrderekevan, it is like someone who never learnt how to properly swim, going to a dive meet. You need to know the basics, as with all things. Good luck.

Very well said ....

mrderekevan , I didn't mean to sound so harsh above. You seem like a nice enough guy so please don't misunderstand my tone.
If you are making your living $$$ , more power to you ...
It seems like for the most part you are doing more relaxed parties where mixing etc. really doesn't matter all that much.
Just be sure what type of parties you decide to take on. You don't want to get caught out there with a crowd expecting something if you know what I mean.
You probably wonder why I use 3 turn tables (sometimes 4) when in your mind all you need is 2 ..... That is the art of mixing. Making something sound like something else ....
I think you should just stick to what you are doing if you are doing well.
Seriously speaking though , I can teach my 91 year old Grandmother how to blend in a fade at the end of each song.
Nothing difficult about that.
"Here Grandma , press that start button and move that lever" LOL :)

What you should just do if you run into these DJ types again is just come clean. Say you are an Entertainment DJ but you do not mix as in beating up two or more songs at the same time. Just say you blend songs back to back.
Then at that point these DJ types won't expect anything more.
Being a DJ , I can tell you when we run into other DJ's that can't put beats together , after a few drinks , its just in our blood to want to teach others how to put mixes together. Don't take it to personally ... :cool:

mrderekevan
April 15th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Thanks very much for all the input and advice! (Except for the guy who told me to turn in my "cheap tux" and become of fisherman). For now I plan on continuing to do things the way I'm doing them now, while also continuing to learn more about "mixing", "matching BPM's", etc, so I can eventually take other types of jobs that I don't currently do.
Just for the record, I rarely entertain at nightclubs or places that get alot of dancers. I do alot of birthday parties, restaurants, corporate events, cocktail hours, retirement homes, car shows, backyard barbecues, active adult centers, and anniversary parties. At most of these events, people have a great time and enjoy the music, but they are mainly just there to talk, eat, and drink! They have almost no interest in dancing, even though we try to encourage them to dance. The music is just backround to them, and they could care less about how (or if) songs are mixed. Most of the time they are too busy talking to even know what songs are playing or what I'm saying in the microphone. The event planners and I are lucky if we can get 7 or 8 people out on the dance floor the whole night, and that's after hours of trying many different genres of music. I guess the people these days who really want to dance just go to the nightclubs. That's where DJ's like YOU guys can do your thing!

brielle87
April 15th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Good luck with all you do, you seem like a rather nice person. Take care:)

BloomfieldAveCruiser
April 16th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Thanks very much for all the input and advice! (Except for the guy who told me to turn in my "cheap tux" and become of fisherman). For now I plan on continuing to do things the way I'm doing them now, while also continuing to learn more about "mixing", "matching BPM's", etc, so I can eventually take other types of jobs that I don't currently do.
Just for the record, I rarely entertain at nightclubs or places that get alot of dancers. I do alot of birthday parties, restaurants, corporate events, cocktail hours, retirement homes, car shows, backyard barbecues, active adult centers, and anniversary parties. At most of these events, people have a great time and enjoy the music, but they are mainly just there to talk, eat, and drink! They have almost no interest in dancing, even though we try to encourage them to dance. The music is just backround to them, and they could care less about how (or if) songs are mixed. Most of the time they are too busy talking to even know what songs are playing or what I'm saying in the microphone. The event planners and I are lucky if we can get 7 or 8 people out on the dance floor the whole night, and that's after hours of trying many different genres of music. I guess the people these days who really want to dance just go to the nightclubs. That's where DJ's like YOU guys can do your thing!

Your current method seems perfect for the party environments you entertain.
Heck , depending on the situation , many many people would prefer that DJ's don't mix. Many of these people never liked that type of thing to begin with.
Some would probably prefer if you just played Rock music ....
I wouldn'y worry to much about it ....

However once you learn how to put beats together , it can be a lot of fun ...
Its addicting and temps your own curiosity as what you can come up with next .... Well , this is assuming your own preference in music is the type that you can mix. If you don't personally like the music , there won't be much of a drive to create new mixes etc.

Mr. X
April 26th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Personally, I think DJing is the weakest talent there is. Those who can't act, sing, dance, or even talk professionally, go the route of DJing. I don't understand why people who "DJ" think of it as so professional and spritual, as if there is a essence behind it. I also don't see the big deal about people who use CD mixing equipment? Half the time people could care less what creativity you put in a mix, as long as the flow of the music is still there. Furthermore, the whole BPMs method is stupid, as if that's the only way to jump from one song to another. Personally, I think having a good music selection is ten times more important than anything else.

I got a huge freestyle collection consisting of almost 3000 songs. I could of always been a DJ myself, but I rather have people take me seriously.

DJ IMPACT
April 26th, 2008, 01:24 PM
So I'm supposed to take an asshole who got nothing better to do with his life than go online with a superiority complex and talk shit seriously? You are without a doubt the most pathetic type of person because you need to justify your own pathetic existence by making outrageous comments and rude remarks. Furthermore you do it online because you know you don't have to worry about someone cramming your words down your throat. What's the matter? Mommy didn't give you enough attention growing up? Do you need a hug? I usually choose to ignore losers such as yourself but I guess you caught me on a good day so as someone who can sing, can act and can dance and I do get paid to talk professionally both on the radio and at parties and events, I think I'm justified in saying you can take your 3000 Freestyle songs and shove them up your ass!

P.S. Do us both a favor, unless your willing to supply an address where we can continue this conversation face to face, don't even respond. I don't have time to go back and fourth with an internet idiot. I'm too busy getting paid to DJ. Maybe I'll see you at the drive-thru window. I hope you don't spit on my fries.

Mr. X
April 26th, 2008, 01:40 PM
So I'm supposed to take an asshole who got nothing better to do with his life than go online with a superiority complex and talk shit seriously? You are without a doubt the most pathetic type of person because you need to justify your own pathetic existence by making outrageous comments and rude remarks. Furthermore you do it online because you know you don't have to worry about someone cramming your words down your throat. What's the matter? Mommy didn't give you enough attention growing up? Do you need a hug? I usually choose to ignore losers such as yourself but I guess you caught me on a good day so as someone who can sing, can act and can dance and I do get paid to talk professionally both on the radio and at parties and events, I think I'm justified in saying you can take your 3000 Freestyle songs and shove them up your ass!
P.S. Do us both a favor, unless your willing to supply an address where we can continue this conversation face to face, don't even respond. I don't have time to go back and fourth with an internet idiot. I'm too busy getting paid to DJ. Maybe I'll see you at the drive-thru window. I hope you don't spit on my fries.

LOL... Drive-thru window


First, Unlike yourself I have a Masters Degree in Communications.

Second, You can't sing or act, so lets be real about that.

Third, you're nothing more than a DJ with no college degree, acting tough with threats, trying to pick a fight, and who will get arrested by cops for not thinking with your head. I can see your fans love the way you handle yourself lol.

And fourth, My mommy loved me a lot and hugged me all the time growing up. And I know she loved me because she made sure I wasn't raised in the projects and around thugs like you were.

But hey, I would really like to meet you one day and say what I have to say to your face... that way your ass will be in jail for assault and I'll make sure you stay there.

DJ IMPACT
April 27th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Like I said before, I don't go back and fourth with internet idiots. This will be my last response. There are plenty of Freestyle events coming up. Pick one, I'll be there and we can continue this conversation.

BloomfieldAveCruiser
April 28th, 2008, 05:24 PM
LOL... Drive-thru window
First, Unlike yourself I have a Masters Degree in Communications.
Second, You can't sing or act, so lets be real about that.
Third, you're nothing more than a DJ with no college degree, acting tough with threats, trying to pick a fight, and who will get arrested by cops for not thinking with your head. I can see your fans love the way you handle yourself lol.
And fourth, My mommy loved me a lot and hugged me all the time growing up. And I know she loved me because she made sure I wasn't raised in the projects and around thugs like you were.
But hey, I would really like to meet you one day and say what I have to say to your face... that way your ass will be in jail for assault and I'll make sure you stay there.

Bro , what the fuck crawled up your ass ???

First off , if you new anything about DJ'ing or MIXING , you would know it takes more talent to keep 3 tables on beat then it does to play an instrument !!!!

I'm not going to even touch the education portion.
I only have one thing to say , anyone who thinks degrees etc. make them better , smarter , or are likely to have more future potential really doesn't know to much about the real world.
I prove this everyday. A Masters in communication ? Hmm , so you would be my little worker boy .... Nice !

DJ'ing is a weak talent yet you can't do it .... LOL
Maybe if you taped your degree on the underside of the equipment , it will somehow work itself .... And no , you could have never have been or never will be a DJ. Downloading songs from the internet does not make you a possible DJ .... LMFAO ...

What you said to Impact regarding education and the assault charge comment makes me sick to my stomach.
People who speak like that are a real problem with this world.
You disrespect a mans proffesion , his job , his way of life , and then threaten an assault charge .... Like you are somehow right and he is wrong. Get a fuckin grip ...
Stop acting like a fuckin bitch and grow up. Be a man ... Only a complete bitch would say something like that. One day when your Masters can't help you , you will have to be a man ... It doesn't appear that you will past that test with your current mentality ...
You are young and not nearly as right on ANY subject as you think you are....

FreestyleSFinest
April 28th, 2008, 08:23 PM
lmaooooooooooooo wow...all types of music have BPM's man!

DJ IMPACT
April 28th, 2008, 11:10 PM
In all fairness, any old school DJ will know about BPM's for the simple fact that we spent endless hours with our stopwatches and our sticker labels going through our collections. We had too many records and needed some way to organize our crates and get to that next record as fast as possible. The newer DJ's might not be able to relate to this because when DJ's started using CD's it became a lot easier to keep the music organized and it also became easier to put sets together. Serato made this even easier than ever. I have come across a few DJ's who do not go by BPM and I can't knock another man's technique. I do find that it is usually newer DJ's and again, I'm not saying that as a bad thing. What I will say is this, I have been DJing more years than I care to admit and I still consider it a learning process. You can always learn something new from the next man. So if you see a bunch of DJ's talking about BPM's and how much it helps their techniques and their sets, it definitely is something you should look into and at least try. I would suggest going to MIXMEISTER.COM and downloading their free BPM analyzer. Thank god we don't have to use those damn stopwatches anymore! lol

P.S. Shout out to BloomfieldAveCruiser and you had me rolling with "My little worker boy" but let's take my brother's advice and ignore the negativity and move on to some more mature and positive discussions. I regret letting myself get pulled into the "Internet Beef" BS. On that note: my new mixtape "I'LL HOUSE YOU Vol. 2" will be out soon and you know I'm gonna be hooking some of my NEWYORKFREESTYLERS up!

Mr. X
April 29th, 2008, 01:06 AM
"What crawled up my ass?"... what does my ass have to do with anything? I think that's a lame attempt at a insult. I really don't see why morons always resort to that bullshit joke.

"education doesn't matter"? It's funny how people like you who don't go to college to better themselves would think that.
"You could be my little worker boy"? ... wow, I never heard a stupid line like that before. Seriously, that was a really bad joke. Work on your material ok lol. Last time I checked I was the program director for a talk station a few years back and now I'm a executive... and how did I get that? With help from my masters degree? Do you honestly think a DJ background will get you a position like that? Please... don't be a dick... it's dicks like you who don't know about the real world. If you want to get far in life and work in executive and high management positions, you need a high degree. All forms of talent have professionals who are behind the scenes conducting business while they perform on stage. lol little worker boy... you must be some idiot who was raised in the project thinking he is educated with his "street smarts."

DJing is a weak talent. Why would I want to be a DJ struggling to get gigs? Sorry but I could care less about mixing other people's songs, and trying to get the crowd's attention. There's no real money in DJing, never was.

"Downloading songs from the internet" ok... I don't know where they came up. I like how people like you make assumptions and try to make themselves look smart in the process. I don't recall me saying I download songs from the internet? Last time I checked I was buying freestyle albums, compilations, everywhere from anyone I could since High School. Like I said I could care less about being a DJ and never said I wanted to be one. And yes, I don't give a fuck if I could never be a DJ either. I don't see myself telling the crowd, "throw your hands in the air", "let me hear you scream", "does anyone have any requests", and more. I have more dignity than that.

And you're damn right I threw in the assault charge. Why shouldn't I? I'm sorry if I don't believe in fighting someone just to prove my manhood. People don't realize in this world, you can't just pick a fight and get away with it. Thinking stupid things like that will obviously get you in jail. I guess you didn't see how IMPACT threaten me before I gave him my warning. Oh but right that doesn't make me a man, huh? From your point of view, a man should fight every guy who tells him what he doesn't like to hear. Seriously, you must be a fuckin' ape who doesn't think with his head if you think fighting solves anything. Maybe you should be the one in jail instead of IMPACT. Maybe getting ass rape a few times by your cell mate will help you learn to think with your head first.

"You're not nearly as right as you think you are?" I never said I was nor did I ever say I wasn't. Am I really suppose to listen to an idiot like you who doesn't think with his head? An idiot who thinks fighting solves everything?
I don't know what you're definition of being a "man" is. I think you need to go back to the projects, the ghetto, or whatever poor neighborhood you were raised in. Obviously the only real life you know about is the streets.

And that goes for everyone who thinks having a degree means nothing in the real world. Millions and millions of people, young, old, single parents, those with disabilities, go to college everyday looking to educate themselves more and become respected professionals. A degree still means a lot today and parents are always proud when their children achieve this in life.

Those who think a degree isn't important, are people whose parents or grandparents should of never came to this country to begin with. Your families came here for a reason, and your parents send you to school for a reason. But hey, if you just want to be some fat DJ, struggling to get work, mixing other people's songs that you didn't produce yourself, and selling yourself to the crowds, then by all means go ahead. You don't even need any high school education to do that.


And with that I made my point. If anyone wants to get the last word, go ahead. Obviously, BloomfieldCruiser is going to say something since he doesn't think with his head, and he'll find any way to insult me to make himself look good.





Bro , what the fuck crawled up your ass ???
First off , if you new anything about DJ'ing or MIXING , you would know it takes more talent to keep 3 tables on beat then it does to play an instrument !!!!
I'm not going to even touch the education portion.
I only have one thing to say , anyone who thinks degrees etc. make them better , smarter , or are likely to have more future potential really doesn't know to much about the real world.
I prove this everyday. A Masters in communication ? Hmm , so you would be my little worker boy .... Nice !
DJ'ing is a weak talent yet you can't do it .... LOL
Maybe if you taped your degree on the underside of the equipment , it will somehow work itself .... And no , you could have never have been or never will be a DJ. Downloading songs from the internet does not make you a possible DJ .... LMFAO ...
What you said to Impact regarding education and the assault charge comment makes me sick to my stomach.
People who speak like that are a real problem with this world.
You disrespect a mans proffesion , his job , his way of life , and then threaten an assault charge .... Like you are somehow right and he is wrong. Get a fuckin grip ...
Stop acting like a fuckin bitch and grow up. Be a man ... Only a complete bitch would say something like that. One day when your Masters can't help you , you will have to be a man ... It doesn't appear that you will past that test with your current mentality ...
You are young and not nearly as right on ANY subject as you think you are....

KENNY GUIDO
April 29th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Mr X, if you continue to act this way to other members and the staff of NYF, I will be forced to suspend you. this is your first and only warning. we wont stand for any of this negativity & insults here.

BloomfieldAveCruiser
April 29th, 2008, 11:30 AM
Mr X, if you continue to act this way to other members and the staff of NYF, I will be forced to suspend you. this is your first and only warning. we wont stand for any of this negativity & insults here.

True Kenny ....
Mr. X comes into "DJ Impact's" forum and purposely starts insults. He was well aware that this is Impacts little part of the forum and he is also well aware that there are many DJ's on this website ...
It's obvious what his intentions were/are .....

I didn't bother to read his last reply ... I couldn't care less what it stated.
I only have one last comment for Mr.X ....

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z40/CYC2007/dj.jpg

DJ IMPACT
April 29th, 2008, 12:42 PM
Oh man we gotta get that printed up on T-Shirts! lol

DJ Coast
May 6th, 2008, 02:02 AM
Beatmatching is one of the most important things a dj must learn when it comes to mixing dance music. You must also learn each and every one of your tracks and learn the breaks and how to time them so that the transition is smooth. For me the #1 rule of deejaying is knowing your records. You never want to suddenly end one song and go right into the next. I suggest buying yourself a used pair of 1200's and learning the old fashioned way, it will make you a better dj.. Good luck, its awesome that your into it whether its cd's or lp's. As long as you do it for the love, there is no greater rush than having a couple of hundred people dancing to your finger tips, then coming up to you later and thanking you for giving them a wonderful night and bringing back memories...old school is where its at, it will always sell and it will never die.

...djc.

DJ Coast
May 6th, 2008, 02:06 AM
Personally, I think DJing is the weakest talent there is. Those who can't act, sing, dance, or even talk professionally, go the route of DJing. I don't understand why people who "DJ" think of it as so professional and spritual, as if there is a essence behind it. I also don't see the big deal about people who use CD mixing equipment? Half the time people could care less what creativity you put in a mix, as long as the flow of the music is still there. Furthermore, the whole BPMs method is stupid, as if that's the only way to jump from one song to another. Personally, I think having a good music selection is ten times more important than anything else.
I got a huge freestyle collection consisting of almost 3000 songs. I could of always been a DJ myself, but I rather have people take me seriously.

How could you say that, WOW...:mad:....totally uncalled for

Its all about the transition, I can't stand going from one song to the next, it has to be smooth, its seriously hard to master the art of beatmatching, it takes years of practice just to get any good, its a true talent...

DJ Coast
May 6th, 2008, 02:26 AM
I wanted to add, yesterday i was listening to one of my first mix tapes before I could beatmatch...:o. What I did is for a whole week after many hours of studying the tracks on the set I would memorize the breaks and certain spaces in songs, I would then time the next song and the transition would be pretty good. I then learned how to beatmatch and let me tell you it is whole lot more fun and it sounds so much better once you get it down. I also spin progressive house and I used to spin trance, blending records together for a few minutes, its the only way to go. For weddings and them kind of gigs, it may not matter, but if you have the dancefloor packed playing dance music, you don't want to loose the crowd, my #1 goal was to keep everyone moving. If I saw a few people start to leave the floor, I would break out a big track to keep them going. The biggest compliment to a dj is when the whole place is moving....djc.

DJ Coast
May 6th, 2008, 02:40 AM
First off , if you new anything about DJ'ing or MIXING , you would know it takes more talent to keep 3 tables on beat then it does to play an instrument !!!! ...

You got that right. Man I would love to try 3 turntables at once, now that takes some serious talent. Is that how they made alot of them promo "mix" records back in the day? I used to call them "piss break" records. If I had to run to the bathroom, or something I would throw one of them records on, they were usually 10-15 minutes long and had a bunch of tracks in one long continous mix... i have around 20 "Dj Only" records like that...remember the double A, B, C, ect,, and the mixmaster ones....lol...I have one with the "roof is one fire" mixed out of some freestyle, pretty sick. shit right there...

I got one for ya's, who can finsh this lyric: "Freeze, I'm Al baker............................................. .....................................?

prizmo
July 25th, 2008, 02:11 PM
Well guys, thanks for the input and your honest feedback. I did understand some of what you were saying, and I will keep it in mind. Some of what you said confused me even more! I mean, I just had no clue what you were talking about at some points.
I'm not going to worry too much about it though. I may not be a "real DJ" based on the standards of DJ's in the dance music community, but my bookings have actually tripled in the last couple of years, and I'm making alot of extra money working in the entertainment business. I even did a job this summer in which 2 people told me I was the best DJ they've ever heard at a party! That really meant alot to me. If I can continue doing what I'm doing, and keep getting paid good money for it, why should I let the complaints of a few DJ's at a party get me upset. People can call me an "amateur", or a "fake DJ", but I take my work very seriously and I am having alot of success with it. I also started my own entertainment business, and I am slowly expanding into new areas. Of course, I am also going to be promoting concerts as I have done in the past.


popularity, fame and money does not make u a good dj. And for the record, u can mix oldies, rock and disco quite well. Its actually harder to mix than house, hiphop, etc because the old joints were not computer generated but created by live bands that tend to sway in pitch. Bottom line, if you cared enough to ask, you should take what everyone says here seriously. Seems like most people are not trying to bash you (as you asked politely) but rather shed some light on subject. It is a lil crazy to hear you don't even have an idea of what we are talking bout tho. Do yourself a favor... Do some research online. Look into dj instructional programs at various schools / institutions across the country. Or just do it like most of us did --- find someone who you know willing to show you the ropes and spend a lot of time in the lab perfecting your craft. Regardless of the amount of volume you make as a mobile dj, learning how to dj as opposed to being a human jukebox will greatly increase your biz, as well as give you a whole new perspective on music and life... Trust, this is not a dis, but hey you asked in the first place.

Mixmaster Tony Rocca
July 27th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Mr. X..

I do not understand the hate here...I am a DJ, former NAVY officer, 20 year Wall Streeter, Chairman of a publicly traded biotechnology company, have a degree and I am the CEO of a television and radio media firm.

I guess I must be a loser by your definition too?..oh well.:p

Mixmaster Tony Rocca
July 27th, 2008, 12:13 PM
popularity, fame and money does not make u a good dj. And for the record, u can mix oldies, rock and disco quite well. Its actually harder to mix than house, hiphop, etc because the old joints were not computer generated but created by live bands that tend to sway in pitch. Bottom line, if you cared enough to ask, you should take what everyone says here seriously. Seems like most people are not trying to bash you (as you asked politely) but rather shed some light on subject. It is a lil crazy to hear you don't even have an idea of what we are talking bout tho. Do yourself a favor... Do some research online. Look into dj instructional programs at various schools / institutions across the country. Or just do it like most of us did --- find someone who you know willing to show you the ropes and spend a lot of time in the lab perfecting your craft. Regardless of the amount of volume you make as a mobile dj, learning how to dj as opposed to being a human jukebox will greatly increase your biz, as well as give you a whole new perspective on music and life... Trust, this is not a dis, but hey you asked in the first place.


It is very easy to mix 50,60's and 70's rock and the light..just need to understand how music works. Besides most of the tracks in those years have cold endings, and are therefore not meant to be "mixed" for argument sake.

BUT the real definition of BPM is really simple, it is the tempo of a particular piece of music..simple as that, any musician will know that but I guess not every DJ. No big deal..life is good.

Mixmaster Tony Rocca
July 27th, 2008, 12:22 PM
You got that right. Man I would love to try 3 turntables at once, now that takes some serious talent. Is that how they made alot of them promo "mix" records back in the day? I used to call them "piss break" records. If I had to run to the bathroom, or something I would throw one of them records on, they were usually 10-15 minutes long and had a bunch of tracks in one long continous mix... i have around 20 "Dj Only" records like that...remember the double A, B, C, ect,, and the mixmaster ones....lol...I have one with the "roof is one fire" mixed out of some freestyle, pretty sick. shit right there...
I got one for ya's, who can finsh this lyric: "Freeze, I'm Al baker............................................. .....................................?

It ends with "gimme all your money...".....oh I use 4 1200's btw. Using 2 to me is like being naked.

DJ Alex Cruz
October 29th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Mr. X..
I do not understand the hate here...I am a DJ, former NAVY officer, 20 year Wall Streeter, Chairman of a publicly traded biotechnology company, have a degree and I am the CEO of a television and radio media firm.
I guess I must be a loser by your definition too?..oh well.:p

Word em up Tony, you told him. Aparently I got to this thread too late. I guess I'm a loser too, I hold a bachelors degree in accounting and I work for a major publicly traded electronics company and I'm a DJ. I say we give Mr. X a good old fashioned beatdown by DJs. But Kenny beat us to it and banned him. :D

ronnie d
October 30th, 2008, 01:10 AM
Word em up Tony, you told him. Aparently I got to this thread too late. I guess I'm a loser too, I hold a bachelors degree in accounting and I work for a major publicly traded electronics company and I'm a DJ. I say we give Mr. X a good old fashioned beatdown by DJs. But Kenny beat us to it and banned him. :D
mr x will be back under some other bogus made up screen name, its just a matter of time.

Mixmaster Tony Rocca
October 30th, 2008, 04:33 AM
mr x will be back under some other bogus made up screen name, its just a matter of time.


Hey I just rolled up on Mr. X at a drive thru..he was wearing a orange jumpsuit and tossin' salads...think I saw him using some jelly too...

Boooahhhhhhhh!!!! Get Some !!!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Kid Heartbreak
October 30th, 2008, 06:10 PM
How could I have slept on this thread for so long? How does someone that's already getting paid to be a mobile dj not know about BPMs? How could Mr. X say some of the things he said about djs and expect anything else he would say to get taken seriously? Those were some of the most ignorant comments I've ever seen.

BloomfieldAveCruiser
October 31st, 2008, 09:50 AM
How could I have slept on this thread for so long? How does someone that's already getting paid to be a mobile dj not know about BPMs? How could Mr. X say some of the things he said about djs and expect anything else he would say to get taken seriously? Those were some of the most ignorant comments I've ever seen.

True. Mr X hit an all time low in this thread.
I mean seriously , does he not realize that most DJ's have full time corporate jobs as well and mostly just DJ because they actually like to do it.
Is he really that stupid ....:confused:
I simply just love to create mixes. It's just something I enjoy to do.
However I'm not paying my mortgage by mixing. Those DJ's that can do that , I say congrats to them for their success in doing something they love and getting paid to do it ....

Kid Heartbreak
October 31st, 2008, 06:53 PM
True. Mr X hit an all time low in this thread.
I mean seriously , does he not realize that most DJ's have full time corporate jobs as well and mostly just DJ because they actually like to do it.
Is he really that stupid ....:confused:
I simply just love to create mixes. It's just something I enjoy to do.
However I'm not paying my mortgage by mixing. Those DJ's that can do that , I say congrats to them for their success in doing something they love and getting paid to do it ....

Nowadays the way things are, most recording artists aren't being able to live off their music either. I wouldn't be surprised if djs are getting paid more than most recording artists nowadays.

Frankie Cutlass
February 17th, 2009, 12:17 PM
LMAO LMAO LMAO BPM:p:p:p

BloomfieldAveCruiser
February 17th, 2009, 01:51 PM
LOL, Mr. D was more of a music entertainer then an actual DJ.
No shame in that though since that is probably what his contracted jobs called for anyway ...

Speaking as a real mixing DJ, none of my material is kept in a BPM catagory anyway. Thats why pitch was invented ... LOL
Any DJ that only mixes material of a common BPM is really limiting himself on what can or could be mixed together ...